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<body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Hi Samuel.</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="white-space: normal;"><blockquote cite="mid:1487851168.3832.11.camel@yahoo.es" type="cite"><div>(Save the environment)</div></blockquote></blockquote><br></div><div>Thanks Very Much. <img src="cid:1487877654.5967.34.camel@yahoo.es" alt=":-D"></div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="white-space: normal;"><blockquote cite="mid:1487851168.3832.11.camel@yahoo.es" type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="moz-cite-prefix"><blockquote type="cite">* Interaction with users</blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></blockquote><br></div><div><div>No, much more simple XD</div><div><br></div><div>It is possible to put a form for the user to send some evaluation.</div><div><br></div><div>For example, we could put a form on the help menu asking what it considers to be a priority in the next updates.</div><div><br></div><div>Something like this image:</div><div><a href="http://argouml-stats.tigris.org/documentation/manual-0.34/images/reference/menu_design_issues.png">http://argouml-stats.tigris.org/documentation/manual-0.34/images/reference/menu_design_issues.png</a></div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="white-space: normal;"><blockquote cite="mid:1487851168.3832.11.camel@yahoo.es" type="cite"><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="moz-cite-prefix"><blockquote type="cite">* % keyword as comment:</blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></blockquote><br></div><div>It's not for a perfect match, it's just to keep more simple the process. <img src="cid:1487877654.5967.35.camel@yahoo.es" alt=":-O"></div><div><br></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="white-space: normal;"><blockquote cite="mid:1487851168.3832.11.camel@yahoo.es" type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="moz-cite-prefix"><blockquote type="cite">* Colors and arrays with names instead of numbers</blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></blockquote><br></div><div>Your interpretation is correct.</div><div>I think in a prepocess for disp because it can work in CLI text.</div><div><br></div><div>The link you have will help me much with it. <img src="cid:1487877654.5967.34.camel@yahoo.es" alt=":-D"> </div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="white-space: normal;"><blockquote cite="mid:1487851168.3832.11.camel@yahoo.es" type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="moz-cite-prefix"><blockquote type="cite"><b>* Pool of formulas</b></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></blockquote><br></div><div>Not all formulas are easy, exists formulas with more than 2 pages that has been written by many persons.</div><div>And when the update is ready, it is necessary to compare with the previous version and manually write the update or even the entire macro.</div><div><br></div><div>Teams can be made from people from social and biological sciences that don't know to implement.</div><div>Or even the team may not have access to additional macros to test the formula for security and intellectual property reasons.</div><div><br></div><div>In both cases, automate the running and test process is necessary to reduce the human work.</div><div><br></div><div>MathML is a XML stantard.</div><div>You can write in Libre Office Math (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjpe7a52s18">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjpe7a52s18</a>) and the SciLAB's XML macro can convert the XML to code and execute then with execstr.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-- Amanda</div><div><br></div><div>On Thu, 2017-02-23 at 18:29 +0100, Samuel Gougeon wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font color="#3333ff">Hi Amanda,<br>
</font><br>
Le 23/02/2017 à 12:59, Amanda Osvaldo a écrit :<br>
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<div>(Save the environment)</div>
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<div>Yes, in the client I can do it.</div>
<div>But how to do in the CLI in text mode?</div>
<div>It's to automate many operations and to expand the work in
text mode.</div>
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<font color="#3333ff">You shall use:<br>
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<tt>save mySessionFile</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>load mySessionFile</tt><tt><br>
</tt></font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite">* Interaction with users</blockquote>
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<div>Yes, including I have reported issues in bugzilla.</div>
<div>But I don't know if a user takes more than 2 minutes to be
able to report something, I believe he can desist.</div>
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<font color="#3333ff">The application has no function to guess or
read users minds and post a report accordingly.<br>
It has not yet any embedded A.I. to do so.<br>
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<div>The need it's simple.</div>
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<font color="#3333ff">Simplicity is not necessarily relevance nor
justification.<br>
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<div>Not always a software can do everything.</div>
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<font color="#3333ff">O wise words :)<br>
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<div>So to improve the job sometimes it needs to switch to a
software to other in differents steps of the job.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Think about the differences in modules, hardware
consumption, and cost.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>In common they always will have the same scripts.</div>
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<font color="#3333ff">Obviously not. Other language, other scripts.<br>
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<div>So better compatibility make this exchange smoother.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>For example:</div>
<div>I can convert images to HDF5 with Octave.</div>
<div>Run a personalized module in SciLAB</div>
<div>Make the heavy job in a cluster with MatLAB.</div>
<div>And Finish in SciLAB with the personalized module.</div>
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<font color="#3333ff">But just, Matlab and Scilab are not
compatible. Adding % comments would not make then compatible.<br>
It is not a matter of more or less compatibility.<br>
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<div>And no always what macro will run in each software it's
clear. So it's necessary that the 3 share the same scripts.</div>
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<font color="#3333ff">So, you wish to build a kind of computing
esperanto.<br>
Could you please give us a pointer to your wish certainly posted
on Octave mailing list or bug tracker to support "//" as comment
as well? Look at this Octave session:<br>
<tt>>> // a comment</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>parse error:</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> syntax error</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>>>> // a comment</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> ^</tt><tt><br>
</tt>What a shame! And a potential loose of manpower! Don't you
think?<br>
And try with "#" that is another symbol used for comments in other
widespread languages.<br>
The same! So bad is the world.</font><br>
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instead of numbers</blockquote>
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<div>Is about to reduce the number of steps and gain productivity.
Including for more complex selections.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Using the %nan i need:</div>
<div>1. to write the selection operation</div>
<div>2. make a array copy </div>
<div>3. put %nan in the selection</div>
<div>4. display the array</div>
<div>5. restore the original array</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It's 5 steps. :-O </div>
<div>If the selection it's always the same so why do not reduce
the visualization to a only single step ?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Repeat this 100 times on the same day it's a nightmare.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>And more, the idea to put colors and words can be used to
introduce sense in the numbers.</div>
<div>A matrix may have not only one word, but many.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>For example: Normal, <font color="#000000">Caution</font>,
Danger, Error.</div>
<div>The colors can have the same meaning.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>I don't know If I'm being clear</div>
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<font color="#3333ff">It was not very clear the first time i read
(and reread) it, but now it's ok (likely). In:<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font color="#3333ff">-->
consoleSetProfile(“my-color-profile”);</font></p>
<font color="#3333ff">--> disp(data)<br>
1. 2. 20.<br>
1. 2. 17.<span style="background: #ffff00"></span><span style="background: #ffff00"><br>
7. 6. </span>18.
</font>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font color="#3333ff">the most important is <tt>consoleSetProfile(“my-color-profile”);
</tt>where the prerequisite is to have set your specifications
(i guess).</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font color="#3333ff">Excepted for the colors, you can do this in
Scilab by defining your own Disp() that will preprocess your
input data before calling disp() or mprintf() to actually
display them.<br>
</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font color="#3333ff">About colors in the console, your skills and
time are certainly welcome to process this report:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bugzilla.scilab.org/10142">http://bugzilla.scilab.org/10142</a><br>
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<div>It's a dilemma.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>It I have a good engineering team but they can not or do
not know how to make a good SciLAB implementation, I will need
another good team for the implementation.</div>
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<font color="#3333ff">Yah, in life, some things may be modular. In
computing sciences too.<br>
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<div>And more, when the engineering team finished the work, they
need to wait for the implementation team start and finish the
implementation.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>It without say about the documentation.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Why I need two teams to do the job if I can do all with one
team and in less time?</div>
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<font color="#3333ff">Yes, why do we need two teams to do two jobs
of complexities 1 & 1, while we would need one single team
twice bigger to do a single job of complexity exp(1+1) in
exp(1+1)^2 /(1+1) more time?<br>
(i have no pointer to give about this patatheory, but i think it
could be relevant to answer to your need.<br>
BTW, it is an open and free one with no copyright, to relieve your
budget).<br>
<br>
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<div>It's a dilemma of how to reduce the financial cost for
projects.</div>
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<font color="#3333ff">Not really. Just think about manpower
sinkholes.<br>
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<div>And MathML it's a answer. <img src="cid:1487877654.5967.33.camel@yahoo.es" alt=":-D" data-inline="" data-name="image/png"></div>
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<font color="#3333ff">Could you give more details? I do not see how
it could be so. AFAIK, this language does not include any formal
interpreter nor formal to numerical converter. Does it?<br>
<br>
Samuel<br>
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