[Scilab-users] ?= GUI hel

Claus Futtrup cfuttrup at gmail.com
Fri Nov 29 19:17:27 CET 2019


Hi Stéphane

Hm, you're right. This actually fixes the problem, but I do find it to 
be a strange "solution" that you write each of them to be equal with 
itself ... I prefer calling the set() function.

Cheers,
Claus

On 29.11.2019 19:05, Stéphane Mottelet wrote:
> To makeit work, just insert
>
> ge_r=ge_r;
> ge_fs=ge_fs;
> ge_hz=ge_hz;
>
> at the begining of function calc.
>
> My two cents...
>
> S.
>
>
> Le 29/11/2019 à 18:58, Claus Futtrup a écrit :
>> Hi Antoine
>>
>> >Not much progress because I never managed to get a minimal working example
>> I can repeat my example again and again. It never works. Please see 
>> it below.
>>
>> Do you agree. This consistently fails if you run it from Scinotes 
>> editor ... but if I copy e.g. ge_r.visible = "on" to the command line 
>> (not from within the calc function), then it shows up.
>>
>> /Claus
>>
>> // BAD_GUI_EXAMPLE.SCE
>> //
>> // Demo of how _NOT_ to build a simple GUI in Scilab.
>>
>> // Initialize variables
>> m  =  1;  // Moving mass 'm'(kilogram)
>> k  =  1;  // Stiffness, spring constant 'k'(Newton per meter)
>> fres  =  1;  // Resonance frequency (Hertz)
>>
>> function  calc()
>>      m  =  evstr(get(ge_m,"string"));  // get content in uicontrol ge_m
>>      k  =  evstr(get(ge_k,"string"));  // get content in uicontrol ge_k
>>      fres=sqrt(k/m)/(2*%pi);
>>      // putting GUI updates inside the calculation routine is not pretty code.
>>      ge_r.visible  =  "on";
>>      ge_fs.visible  =  "on";        // THIS DOESN'T WORK
>>      ge_hz.visible  =  "on";
>> // set(ge_r,"Visible","on"); // THIS WORKS
>> // set(ge_fs,"Visible","on");
>> // set(ge_hz,"Visible","on");
>>      // update global variables
>>      [m,k,fres]=return(m,k,fres);
>> endfunction
>>
>> function  goodbye()
>>      close(ge);  // Close GUI window
>>      printf("Resulting fres: %f Hertz\n",fres);
>>      abort  // Print result in console (e.g. for copy/paste), then kill the app
>> endfunction
>>
>> ge  =  scf();  // GUI Example, Initialize and 'set current figure'
>> as  =  ge.axes_size;  // read size of window, as = [width height]
>> ge.figure_name  =  "GUI Example";  // Change window header
>>
>> uicontrol("style","text","string","Moving mass :","position",  ..
>>            [10  as(2)-35  80  20],"background",[1  1  1]);  // white background
>>            // position properties has four parameters = x,y,width,height
>>            // y-position counts from lower left corner, so we subtract from 'as'
>> ge_m  =  uicontrol("style","edit","string",string(m),  ..
>>            "position",[100  as(2)-35  80  20]);
>> uicontrol("style","text","string","kg ","position",  ..
>>            [200  as(2)-35  30  20],"background",[1  1  1]);
>>
>> uicontrol("style","text","string","Stiffness :","position",  ..
>>            [10  as(2)-60  80  20],"background",[1  1  1]);
>> ge_k  =  uicontrol("style","edit","string",string(k),  ..
>>            "position",[100  as(2)-60  80  20]);
>> uicontrol("style","text","string","N/m ","position",  ..
>>            [200  as(2)-60  30  20],"background",[1  1  1]);
>>
>> uicontrol("style","pushbutton","string","Calculate",  ..
>>            "position",[10  as(2)-85  80  20],"callback","calc");
>>
>> ge_r  =  uicontrol("style","text","string","Result :","position",  ..
>>            [10  as(2)-110  80  20],"visible","off");  // keep these hidden for a start
>> ge_fs  =  uicontrol("style","text","string",string(fres),  ..
>>            "position",[100  as(2)-110  80  20],"visible","off");
>> ge_hz  =  uicontrol("style","text","string","Hz ","position",  ..
>>            [200  as(2)-110  30  20],"visible","off");
>>
>> uicontrol("style","pushbutton","string","Exit",  ..
>>            "position",[10  as(2)-135  80  20],"callback","goodbye");
>>
>> On 29.11.2019 10:20, Antoine Monmayrant wrote:
>>> Le Jeudi, Novembre 28, 2019 19:40 CET, Claus Futtrup<cfuttrup at gmail.com>  a écrit:
>>>   
>>>> Hi Antoine
>>>>
>>>> Also, you should better use get(a, 'propertyName') or set(a, 'propertyName', value) instead of a.propertyName and a.propertyName=value in your callbacks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see what you mean. I just now had trouble turning visibility on/off,
>>>> but using set(), it works fine. Thanks for the tip.
>>> It's something quite weird, maybe a race condition.
>>> I've seen it when using 'a.prop' or 'a.prop=value' syntax in either a callback function or in a for loop.
>>> When you repeatedly use this syntax, scilab tends to forget that 'a' exists and that it's a handle with different properties.
>>> The initial bug report is here:http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15786
>>> Not much progress because I never managed to get a minimal working example (it's an Heisenbug).
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Claus
>>>>
>>>> On 28.11.2019 17:47, Antoine Monmayrant wrote:
>>>>> Le Jeudi, Novembre 28, 2019 17:05 CET, Claus Futtrup<cfuttrup at gmail.com>  a écrit:
>>>>>    
>>>>>> Hi Antoine, et al.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your reply is very helpful, so I think you got the right question :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Good point that I can use callback on every uicontrol. This would be
>>>>>> suitable for a simple example (like gui_example.sce) ... but for heavy
>>>>>> calculations, it might be more practical with a CALC button. P.S. The
>>>>>> correct equation for the resonance frequency is fres=sqrt(k/m)/(2*%pi);
>>>>> You are right.
>>>>> Also, the trick to disable the callback function/ reenable it is key for sliders that tend to generate an avalanche of call to the function when one moves the cursor.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) I see what you mean, so not having an empty space, but "show" the
>>>>>> whole she-bang from the beginning. I didn't want to do that (just
>>>>>> deleting the IF-statement), but it could be the best solution in the end
>>>>>> (rather than the inline GUI updates), if nothing better shows up. This
>>>>>> was somehow the "core" of my question. Maybe I ask for too much.
>>>>> I think you can achieve what you want by setting ".visible='off'" for all the uicontrols you don't want to show initialy. You can then set  ".visible='on'" after the first call to the callback (or at each call if you are lazy).
>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) I will look into this. Thanks for the tip.
>>>>> Also, you should better use get(a, 'propertyName') or set(a, 'propertyName', value) instead of a.propertyName and a.propertyName=value in your callbacks.
>>>>> I have found that this latter syntax is causing a lot of bug if your callback get called really often. I still don't know why.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) I will also look into this. My problem is the steep learning curve.
>>>>>> If you look at the Scilab tutorials you have the good-old Openeering
>>>>>> LHY_Tutorial - it's incredibly complicated and long. Is LHY_Tutorial
>>>>>> using the Model-Viewer-Controller approach? - Maybe the
>>>>>> Model-Viewer-Controller could be presented in a _simple_ tutorial - is
>>>>>> it possible?
>>>>> Hmm, that would be a good idea.
>>>>> I'll see whether I can put something together.
>>>>> The thing is, MVC approach looks rather silly and overengineered on a small example.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I appreciate gui_example.sce with just about 70 lines of code, two
>>>>>> inputs and one output. I think something like it could help a lot of
>>>>>> people ... and it's not 250 lines of code to get a GUI up and running,
>>>>>> if you know what I mean. The gui_example shows a few differences, like
>>>>>> white versus grey background, editable boxes, etc. In the outputs,
>>>>>> because of the default grey background, you can see the dimensions of
>>>>>> the grid / text-boxes, and gui_example has two buttons. It looks
>>>>>> operational and easy to expand for new users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Claus
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28.11.2019 08:57, Antoine Monmayrant wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Claus,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been playing a bit with GUIs for teaching, so maybe I can help.
>>>>>>> The issue is that I don't get what your problem is exactly here, so I my answer might be a bit off-topic.
>>>>>>> Do not hesitate to rephrase your issue, I'll try a more focused answer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anywya, here is how I think your code could be improved:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (1) You can use 'calc' as the callback for all of the editable text field so that your result gets shown right away, without having to press a button.
>>>>>>> (2) You should populate all the uicontrols of your gui first, then only update the displayed values, the visibility of the uicontrols, etc inside your calc function. (ie no more creating a uicontrol inside a callback)
>>>>>>> (3) The 'tag' property of any uicontrol together with 'findobj()' are really nice to get/set the properties of each existing uicontrol.
>>>>>>> (4) You can rely on a proper Model-View-Controler approach (or any other well established method to avoid mixing gui stuff with calculation stuff).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I attached a small gui I use to illustrate optical anti-reflection coating.
>>>>>>> It is far from perfect (I did not implement a proper model-view-controler for example).
>>>>>>> But you can see how I tried to separate the different parts of the code an how I use findobj/tag/get/set,  etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope it helps,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> Le Mercredi, Novembre 27, 2019 19:21 CET, Claus Futtrup<cfuttrup at gmail.com>  a écrit:
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>> Hi there
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm trying to build a GUI. For simplicity on the forum, I've built a
>>>>>>>> really simple example of what I'm trying to do. How can I make the
>>>>>>>> "conditional" GUI output work and not have it inside the calc function?
>>>>>>>> ... or, how would you do it? Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards, Claus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> // GUI_EXAMPLE.SCE
>>>>>>>> //
>>>>>>>> // Demo of how to build a simple GUI in Scilab.
>>>>>>>> // Real simple, with two input variables and one output.
>>>>>>>> // The example uses the basic mechanical example of a mass and a spring as
>>>>>>>> // input parameters and calculates the resonance frequency of the mechanical
>>>>>>>> // system.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> // Initialize variables
>>>>>>>> m  =  1;  // Moving mass 'm'(kilogram)
>>>>>>>> k  =  1;  // Stiffness, spring constant 'k'(Newton per meter)
>>>>>>>> fres  =  1;  // Resonance frequency (Hertz)
>>>>>>>> show_result  =  %f;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> function  calc()
>>>>>>>>         m  =  evstr(get(ge_m,"string"));  // get content in uicontrol ge_m
>>>>>>>>         k  =  evstr(get(ge_k,"string"));  // get content in uicontrol ge_k
>>>>>>>>         fres  =  sqrt(m  *  k);
>>>>>>>>         // putting GUI updates inside the calculation routine is not pretty code.
>>>>>>>>         uicontrol("style","text","string","Result :","position",  ..
>>>>>>>>                   [10  as(2)-110  80  20]);
>>>>>>>>         uicontrol("style","text","string",string(fres),  ..
>>>>>>>>                   "position",[100  as(2)-110  80  20]);
>>>>>>>>         uicontrol("style","text","string","Hz ","position",  ..
>>>>>>>>                   [200  as(2)-110  30  20]);
>>>>>>>>         show_result  =  %t;
>>>>>>>>         // update global variables
>>>>>>>>         [m,k,fres,show_result]=return(m,k,fres,show_result);
>>>>>>>> endfunction
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> function  goodbye()
>>>>>>>>         close(ge);  // Close GUI window
>>>>>>>>         printf("Resulting fres: %f Hertz\n",fres);
>>>>>>>>         abort  // Print result in console (e.g. for copy/paste), then kill the app
>>>>>>>> endfunction
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ge  =  scf();  // GUI Example, Initialize and 'set current figure'
>>>>>>>> as  =  ge.axes_size;  // read size of window, as = [width height]
>>>>>>>> ge.figure_name  =  "GUI Example";  // Change window header
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> uicontrol("style","text","string","Moving mass :","position",  ..
>>>>>>>>               [10  as(2)-35  80  20],"background",[1  1  1]);  // white background
>>>>>>>>               // position properties has four parameters = x,y,width,height
>>>>>>>>               // y-position counts from lower left corner, so we subtract from 'as'
>>>>>>>> ge_m  =  uicontrol("style","edit","string",string(m),  ..
>>>>>>>>               "position",[100  as(2)-35  80  20]);
>>>>>>>> uicontrol("style","text","string","kg ","position",  ..
>>>>>>>>               [200  as(2)-35  30  20],"background",[1  1  1]);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> uicontrol("style","text","string","Stiffness :","position",  ..
>>>>>>>>               [10  as(2)-60  80  20],"background",[1  1  1]);
>>>>>>>> ge_k  =  uicontrol("style","edit","string",string(k),  ..
>>>>>>>>               "position",[100  as(2)-60  80  20]);
>>>>>>>> uicontrol("style","text","string","N/m ","position",  ..
>>>>>>>>               [200  as(2)-60  30  20],"background",[1  1  1]);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> uicontrol("style","pushbutton","string","Calculate",  ..
>>>>>>>>               "position",[10  as(2)-85  80  20],"callback","calc");
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> // How do I make this "conditional"output show up in my GUI?
>>>>>>>> if  show_result  then  // If "Calculate"button was pushed at least once ...
>>>>>>>>         uicontrol("style","text","string","Result :","position",  ..
>>>>>>>>                   [10  as(2)-110  80  20]);
>>>>>>>>         uicontrol("style","text","string",string(fres),  ..
>>>>>>>>                   "position",[100  as(2)-110  80  20]);
>>>>>>>>         uicontrol("style","text","string","Hz ","position",  ..
>>>>>>>>                   [200  as(2)-110  30  20]);
>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> uicontrol("style","pushbutton","string","Exit",  ..
>>>>>>>>               "position",[10  as(2)-135  80  20],"callback","goodbye");
>>>>>>>>
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