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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Should I file a bug report or did that someone already ??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wolfgang<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Im Auftrag von </b>SCHULZ Wolfgang<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 13. August 2015 10:53<br>
<b>An:</b> Users mailing list for Scilab<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Scilab-users] mode() changes. Paused modes canceled. Commands echo not in functions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">thanks for this extensive test.
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Maybe the one of the developers should tell if I should enter a bug report.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Samuel Gougeon<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 12. August 2015 22:28<br>
<b>An:</b> Users mailing list for Scilab<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [Scilab-users] mode() changes. Paused modes canceled. Commands echo not in functions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Wolfgang,<br>
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Le 12/08/2015 08:50, SCHULZ Wolfgang a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>Hello,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>I tested the alpha version of SCILAB 6 and have a problem with the mode command:<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>mode(-1) - switches off the display of variable on the console - this works<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>But e.g. the mode(0) works differently in SCILAB 6. All comments and lines of the source code are displayed.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Is this a bug??<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was waiting for improvements about mode() -- mainly for paused and/or commands-echoing modes --
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so with Scilab 6, after your mail, i did an exhaustive checking of execution modes:<br>
- with mode() in a function<br>
- with mode() in a script run with exec(script.sce)<br>
- with exec(script.sce, mode)<br>
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I confirm that there are several changes:<br>
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1) With <b>mode() in a function:</b><br>
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Scilab 6.0.0-a1 / 5.5.2<br>
---------------<br>
<tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">mode vars pause commands</span></tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
<tt> echo echo</tt><br>
<tt>-1: </tt><br>
<tt>0 : x</tt><br>
<tt>1 : x</tt><br>
<tt>2 : x</tt><br>
<tt>3 : x</tt><br>
<tt>4 : CANCELED</tt><br>
<tt>5 : x </tt><br>
<tt>6 : CANCELED CANCELED</tt><br>
<tt>7 : CANCELED CANCELED</tt><br>
<tt>8 : CANCELED</tt><br>
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<b>Conclusions #1</b>: Only bad news:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:#FF6600">There is no longer any paused mode</span>.<b> </b>This is a big regression. Killing every tool enabling debugging seems to be the rule for years now...<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">
<a href="http://bugzilla.scilab.org/12372">Commands echoing that was requested</a> is still unavailable.
<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>2) mode() in a script.sce run with exec() or in exec("script.sce", mode)</b><br>
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<tt>Scilab 6.0.0-a1 / 5.5.2</tt><br>
<tt>---------------</tt><br>
<tt>mode vars pause commands compact Comments</tt><br>
<tt>-1: </tt><br>
<tt>0 : x ADDED</tt><br>
<tt>1 : x x x </tt><br>
<tt>2 : x ADDED (2)</tt><br>
<tt>3 : x x </tt><br>
<tt>4 : CANCELED (4)</tt><br>
<tt>5 : x x x (5)</tt><br>
<tt>6 : CANCELED CANCELED (6)</tt><br>
<tt>7 : CANCELED CANCELED CANCELED (7)</tt><br>
<tt>8 : x CANCELED </tt></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">(2) SUPPRESSED (OK): The commands lines were echoed with \n, that was useless and made very flufy output.</span></tt><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo6">
<tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">(4) SUPPRESSED (OK): A message "Mode pause" was displayed, although there was no pause!</span></tt><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo6">
<tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">(5) SUPPRESSED (OK): in exec(..,mode), a heading line "step-by-step mode: enter carriage return to proceed" was displayed, although there was no pause!</span></tt><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo6">
<tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">(6) SUPPRESSED (OK): Each command line was replaced with an empty prompt ">>(nothing)"</span></tt><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo6">
<tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">(7) SUPPRESSED (OK): Each echoed command line ">> command.." was prepended with a useless empty prompt ">>(nothing)\n"</span></tt><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<b>Conclusions #2</b>: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:#33CC00">Inconsistent messages have been removed, as well as useless lines when echoing commands</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo9">
<span style="color:#FF6600">There is no longer any paused mode</span>.<b> </b>So, now, it is everywhere!
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo9">
This review has shown that effects with mode() in scripts or as exec option were exactly the same, while help pages for mode() and exec() were (and are still) inconsistent. The exec() help page should only point to the mode() one for its mode option.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo9">
There is no real systematic mapping of mode for concerned features: <o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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echoing variables (not followed with ";")<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo9">
echoing commands<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo9">
paused mode<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo9">
compact output<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p>As it is quite common, a bit yes/no could be assigned to each feature, building the mode number. That's not look to be the case. So several modes do the same. And some useful combinations are missing.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I hope strongly that the disappearance of paused modes -- that are also useful in demos, with only bad and very heavy work-arounds -- , is a bug, not a choice.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>As you see, to answer to your need, as long as the former 0 mode won't be restored, you may use
<b>mode(8)</b> instead.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Best regards<br>
Samuel<o:p></o:p></p>
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