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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi again,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I just filed a bug
report here:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><a
href="http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15809"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://bugzilla.scilab.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15809</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Would it be possible to
bring back the old mem-dump approach in scilab 6?</span></p>
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Couldn't you create your own atom package that restore this raw
memory dump for scilab 6.0?<br>
I understand why we moved away from this model, but it seems to be
key for you.<br>
There is always a trade-off between portability (and robustness) and
raw speed...<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> I mean, could I write a
gateway that just takes a pointer to the first byte in
memory, figures out the size, and dumps to disk? Or maybe it
doesn’t work like that. Writing a JSON exporter for storing
filter coefficients in a math software package seems a bit
ridicules, but hey, if it works it might be worth it in our
case.</span></p>
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I was also wondering whether this can be done in HDF5: ie do some
serialization of your structure and dump it in hdf5?<br>
We use hdf5 for Labview and for some horrible structures (like
arrays of clusters containing lots of elements of different types),
we just turn them into byte stream and dump the stream in an hdf5
dataset.<br>
We then retrieve it and rebuild the structure (knowing its shape).<br>
Could this be implemented in Scilab 6?<br>
What could be missing, the any variable -> bytestream conversion
and the way back?<br>
<br>
Antoine<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Arvid<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">users
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:users-bounces@lists.scilab.org"><users-bounces@lists.scilab.org></a> on behalf of
Clément DAVID <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:clement.david@scilab-enterprises.com"><clement.david@scilab-enterprises.com></a><br>
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<b>Date: </b>Monday, 15 October 2018 at 15:48<br>
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<b>Cc: </b>Clément David
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Scilab-users] HDF5 save is super
slow<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Hello all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">Correct, I experienced such a slowness while
working with Xcos diagrams for Scilab 5. At first we
considered HDF5 for this deep nested list / mlist
data-structure storage however after some tests ; XML might
be used for tree-like storage and HDF5 (or Java types
serialization) for big matrices.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">AFAIK currently there is no easy way to
load/save specifying a format other than HDF5 ; maybe adding
xmlSave/xmlLoad sci_gateway to let the user select an xml
file format for any Scilab structure might provide better
performance on your use-case. JSON might also be another
candidate to look at for decent serialization support.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">PS: Scilab 5.5.1 load/save are direct memory
dump so this is really the fastest you can get from Scilab ;
HDF5 binary format is good enough for matrices</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">--</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">Clément</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> users
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stéphane Mottelet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 15, 2018 2:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:users@lists.scilab.org">users@lists.scilab.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Scilab-users] HDF5 save is super
slow</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Hello,<br>
<br>
I looked a little bit in the sources: the evident
bottleneck is the nested creation of an hdf5 group each
time that a container variable is met.<br>
For the given example, this is particularly evident. If
you replace the syslin structure by the corresponding
[A,B;C,D] matrix, then save is ten times faster:<br>
<br>
N = 4;<br>
n = 1000;<br>
filters = list();<br>
for i=1:n<br>
G=syslin('c', rand(N,N), rand(N,1), rand(1,N),
rand(1,1));<br>
filters($+1) = G;<br>
end<br>
tic();<br>
save('filters.dat', 'filters');<br>
disp(toc());<br>
--> disp(toc());<br>
<br>
0.724754<br>
<br>
N = 4;<br>
n = 1000;<br>
filters = list()<br>
for i=1:n<br>
G=syslin('c', rand(N,N), rand(N,1), rand(1,N),
rand(1,1));<br>
filters($+1) = [G.a G.b;G.c G.d];<br>
end<br>
tic();<br>
save('filters.dat', 'filters');<br>
disp(toc());<br>
--> disp(toc());<br>
<br>
0.082302<br>
<br>
Serializing container objects seems to be the solution,
but it goes towards an orthogonal direction w.r.t. the
hdf5 portability spirit.<br>
<br>
S.<br>
<br>
<br>
Le 15/10/2018 à 12:22, Antoine Monmayrant a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Le
15/10/2018 à 11:55, Arvid Rosén a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">Thanks for getting back to me!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">Unfortunately, we used Scilab’s pretty
cool way of doing object orientation, so we have big
nested tlist structures with multiple instances of
various lists of filters and other structures, as in
my example. Saving those structures in some explicit
manual way would be extremely complicated. Or is
there some way of writing explicit HDF5
saving/loading schemes using overloading? That would
be great! I am sure we could find the main culprits
and do something explicit for them, but as they can
be located wherever in a big nested structure, it
would be painful to do anything on the top level.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">Another, related I guess, problem here
is that the new file format uses about 15 times as
much disk space as the old format (for a typical
ill-behaved nested structure). That adds to the
save/load time too I guess, but is probably not the
main source here.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Argh, yes, I
tested it and in your example, I have a file x8.5 bigger.<br>
I think that both increases in time and size are real
issues and should be reported as bugs.<br>
<br>
By the way, I rewrote your script to run it under both 6.0
and 5.5:<br>
<br>
/////////////////////////////////<br>
N = 4;<br>
n = 10000;<br>
filters = list();<br>
<br>
for i=1:n<br>
G=syslin('c', rand(N,N), rand(N,1), rand(1,N),
rand(1,1));<br>
filters($+1) = G;<br>
end<br>
<br>
ver=getversion('scilab');<br>
<br>
if ver(1)<6 then<br>
tic();<br>
save('filters_old.dat', filters);<br>
ts1 = toc();<br>
else<br>
tic();<br>
save('filters_new.dat', 'filters');<br>
ts1 = toc(); <br>
end<br>
<br>
printf("Time for save %.2fs\n", ts1);<br>
/////////////////////////////////<br>
<br>
Hope it helps,<br>
<br>
Antoine<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">I think I might have reported this
earlier using Bugzilla, but I’m not sure. I’ll check
and report it if not.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">Arvid</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">From: </span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">users
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Scilab-users] HDF5 save is
super slow</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt">Hello,<br>
<br>
I tried your code in 5.5.1 and the last
nightly-build of 6.0: I see a slowdown of around 175
between old save in 5.5.1 and new (and only) save in
6.0.<br>
It's really related to the data structure, because
we use hdf5 read/write a lot here and did not
experience significant slowdowns using 6.0.<br>
I think the overhead might come to the translation
of your fairly complex variable (a long array of
tlist) in the corresponding hdf5 structure.<br>
In the old save, this translation was not necessary.<br>
Maybe you could try to save your data in a different
way.<br>
For example:<br>
3) you could save each element of "filters" in a
separate file.<br>
2) you could bypass save and directly write your
data in a hdf5 file by using h5open(), h5write()
directly. It means you need to write your own load()
for your custom file format. But this way, you can
try to find the best way to layout your data in hdf5
format.<br>
3) in addition to 2) you could try to save each
entry of your "filters" array as one dataset in a
given hdf5 file.<br>
<br>
Did you search on bugzilla whether this bug was
already submitted?<br>
Could you try to report it?<br>
<br>
<br>
Antoine<br>
<br>
Le 15/10/2018 à 10:11, Arvid Rosén a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US">/////////////////////////////////</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US">N = 4;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US">n = 10000;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US">filters = list();</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US">for i=1:n</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US"> G=syslin('c', rand(N,N), rand(N,1),
rand(1,N), rand(1,1));</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US"> filters($+1) = G;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US">end</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US">tic();</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US">save('filters.dat', filters);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US">ts1 = toc();</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""
lang="EN-US">tic();</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">save('filters.dat', 'filters');</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
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lang="EN-US">ts2 = toc();</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
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lang="EN-US">printf("old save %.2fs\n", ts1);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">printf("new save %.2fs\n", ts2);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">printf("slowdown %.1f\n", ts2/ts1);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> Antoine Monmayrant LAAS - CNRS<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> 7 avenue du Colonel Roche<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> BP 54200<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> 31031 TOULOUSE Cedex 4<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> FRANCE<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <a href="Tel:+33" moz-do-not-send="true">Tel:+33</a> 5 61 33 64 59<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> email : <a href="mailto:antoine.monmayrant@laas.fr" moz-do-not-send="true">antoine.monmayrant@laas.fr</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> permanent email : <a href="mailto:antoine.monmayrant@polytechnique.org" moz-do-not-send="true">antoine.monmayrant@polytechnique.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:72.0pt">+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt">+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"> Antoine Monmayrant LAAS - CNRS<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"> 7 avenue du Colonel Roche<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"> BP 54200<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"> 31031 TOULOUSE Cedex 4<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"> FRANCE<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <a href="Tel:+33" moz-do-not-send="true">Tel:+33</a> 5 61 33 64 59<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"> email : <a href="mailto:antoine.monmayrant@laas.fr" moz-do-not-send="true">antoine.monmayrant@laas.fr</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"> permanent email : <a href="mailto:antoine.monmayrant@polytechnique.org" moz-do-not-send="true">antoine.monmayrant@polytechnique.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt">+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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Antoine Monmayrant LAAS - CNRS
7 avenue du Colonel Roche
BP 54200
31031 TOULOUSE Cedex 4
FRANCE
Tel:+33 5 61 33 64 59
email : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:antoine.monmayrant@laas.fr">antoine.monmayrant@laas.fr</a>
permanent email : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:antoine.monmayrant@polytechnique.org">antoine.monmayrant@polytechnique.org</a>
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