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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 07/06/2021 à 09:20, CHEZE David
227480 a écrit :<br>
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lang="EN-GB">I installed both SciPOpt and fmincon from ATOMS
on Scilab 6.1.0 WIN10-64bits, a few weeks ago and the demos
are running properly. I had some minor dependencies issues
while installing, I don’t remember exactly , probably the
SciIPopt version was not aligned with the one required by
fmincon.</span></p>
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<p>Yes, there were successive versions of sci_ipot over a short
period, and since the updates only pop in the atoms gui (not at
loading time), you can easily miss them. However, the situation is
stable since the end of april and I don't plan a new release until
the end of 2021.</p>
<p>S.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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<b>De la part de</b> Stéphane Mottelet<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> samedi 5 juin 2021 22:17<br>
<b>À :</b> Users mailing list for Scilab
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<b>Objet :</b> Re: [Scilab-users] fmincon toolbox update<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">May I ask if there are there some Windows
users who read this post and who successfully installed
sci_ipopt or fmincon ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">S.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Le 5 juin
2021 à 15:21, Éric Dubois <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">grocer.toolbox@gmail.com</a>>
a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Stéphane for your quick answer<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have tried installing fmincon
first, then scicolpack (it works), then sci_ipopt and
it does not work: only
file sci_ipopt_1.3.bin.x64.Windows.zipis downloaded.
So it seems:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- first that dependencies are not
deal with for the fmincon distribution that Atoms
uses;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- second, that there is some
problem using Atoms for loading sci_ipopt<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe I should not use Atoms, but
when it works it is the most convenient way to
download a module.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Éric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Le sam. 5 juin 2021 à 14:06,
Stéphane Mottelet <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could you be more precise ? I
have I installed fmincon on at least 10 different
machines for testing purposes (mostly under
Windows 10) and did not encounter any problem.
Atoms is, I must say, a very unstable (not to say
crappy) piece of software and in particular very
hard to use smoothly when your are developing some
modules and play e.g. with offline mode. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What I would do first is to
uninstall every module then install fmincon. If
problem is still here please help me by debugging
a bit...<o:p></o:p></p>
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a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Stéphane<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This seems very
interesting, but download through Atoms does
not work (at least for me: I use Scilab
6.1.0 under Windows 10): dependencies
(Sci-colpac, Sci-IPOt, for those I have
noticed) are not dealt with. Moreover,
trying to install Sci-IPOt with Atoms fails.
By the way it makes also make fail lthe
oading of any module that could have been
installed with Atoms, which reveals an
undesirable feature of Atoms: failure to
load a module should not prevent the loading
of other ones.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Éric <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Le mar. 1 juin 2021
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
Le 01/06/2021 à 09:53, CHEZE David 227480 a
écrit :<br>
> Dear Stephane,<br>
><br>
> Thank you for offering these enhanced
capabilities in Scilab, fmincon and
SciIPOpt. I'm about giving a try in
comparison with leastsq(), on dynamic model
parameter (~5-10) calibration purpose, based
on measurement deviation, as time series
(250 to >1000 samples). In general for
fmincon and SciIPOpt, may I provide the
objective function with inputs argument
through the list() syntax like
objf=list(myofunction,x,in1,in2,..) ?<br>
<br>
Yes, you have such an example in the fitting
demo ;<br>
<br>
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<br>
S.<br>
<br>
><br>
> Thank you for your advice,<br>
><br>
> David<br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Message d'origine-----<br>
> De : users <<a
href="mailto:users-bounces@lists.scilab.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">users-bounces@lists.scilab.org</a>>
De la part de Stéphane Mottelet<br>
> Envoyé : lundi 19 avril 2021 10:43<br>
> À : Users mailing list for Scilab <<a
href="mailto:users@lists.scilab.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">users@lists.scilab.org</a>><br>
> Objet : [Scilab-users] fmincon toolbox
update<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> I would like to inform you that the
fmincon toolbox has been updated<br>
> (<a
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and now includes a major feature: the
Efficient Computation of Sparse Hessian
using Coloring algorithm (scicolpack is now
a dependency of fmincon). This feature was
missing and now allows fmincon to consider
really big problems. A example of such is
given in the "minimal surface demo" which
compares 3 different approaches of the
problem: one with finite differences
gradient, and BFGS Hessian, one with exact
gradient and BFGS Hessian, and the last with
exact gradient and finite differences sparse
Hessian. The time factor between the first
and the third approchach is around 200 for a
21x21 square but you can edit the demo file
and increase this value. For a 51x51 square
the third approach takes only<br>
> 0.45 seconds and is 2500 times faster.
For a 101x101 square the first approach
takes forever and the third ones takes less
than 2 seconds and is still 10 times faster
than the second one.<br>
><br>
> If some of you still use other
softwares for large scale optimization,
maybe you can now give Scilab a try. If you
need a better control on parameters and/or
if you are not a former/actual user of
Matlab's fmincon, I recommend using directly
ipopt (from sci_ipopt toolbox). But the
fmincon api is quite easy to use. Don't
hesitate to took at the code of the several
new demos.<br>
><br>
> Don't hesitate to contact me if you
have some problems using fmincon of just to
say that you are using it with success !<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Stéphane Mottelet<br>
> Ingénieur de recherche<br>
> EA 4297 Transformations Intégrées de la
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Stéphane Mottelet
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EA 4297 Transformations Intégrées de la Matière Renouvelable
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