<div dir="ltr">It has been a while since I was away from the Scilab mailing list, in fact, I am of the opinion that the Scilab Developer Community seems to be reducing over time...<div><br></div><div>I was a half-cooked developer (maybe not even half-cooked) who had been playing around with Scilab for quite some time. I have to agree that after the ESI taking over, the Scilab team focus seems to be less on the "Community Version", and the enthusiasm of the Community Developers just could not heat up, as there are none official activities initiated from the ESI as per my understanding. </div><div><br></div><div>I do like Scilab, alot, but seeing this pace of moving, sooner or later, I worry that Scilab will eventually disappear... sorry to say that. </div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Chin Luh</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 at 18:32, Stéphane Mottelet <<a href="mailto:stephane.mottelet@utc.fr">stephane.mottelet@utc.fr</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>Sorry for being rude but who in the (zombie) Scilab community
would have some time to develop such fancy stuff, when so many
basic things such as a decent html redering of help pages is
missing ? BTW you ask for a dark mode but Scilab is slowly but
irremediably sliding to darkness...<br>
</p>
<p>I was recently interviewed by students of a french engineering
school (not mine) on my feeling about the past, present and future
of Scilab, and one of the points I mentioned is the death of the
aforementioned community. First by its size then by its age
distribution and finally by its lack of investment in the
development of Scilab itself. The only newcomming users I have met
this year on StackOverflow are students who were told to do some
homework by their math teacher. None of the brilliant students I
meet each year in my course (which uses Scilab) are interested in
developping Scilab. Recently one of them was hired as a research
engineer at Inria to work in the Scikit-learn consortium hence
Python stuff ! <br>
</p>
<p>When I read such (legitimate) demands as the one formulated by
David, I am not sure that actual Scilab users are aware of the
situation. One the one hand ESI hosts the rest of the Scilab team,
which has its own business plan and spends its time on
developments which are not available to the community (e.g. the
Scilab Cloud), and on the other hand some (dumb ?) guys which
still spend (waste ?) their time to fix what they can fix or
consider to be fixed. I have to say that the Scilab team does help
us when we ask some help, but the initiative to fix this or that
must come from us. <br>
</p>
<p>As far as I am concerned I consider that working on solvers
(nonlinear equations, differential equations, optimization, ...)
is a priority of higher level than gui stuff. I met so many people
trying (and failing) to solve real/big problems with Scilab that I
could not just give up and tell them to use Matlab. That's why I
rewrote from scratch sci-ipopt in order to allow Scilab to solve
efficiently nonlinear optimization problems. That's why I am
currently interfacing the SUNDIALS ode/dae solvers (which are
already used in XCos). The Kinsol equation solver (also from
SUNDIALS) could also be interfaced, in order to provide an
alternative to the very poor lsqrsolve (missing features like
positivity constraints and sparse jacobian). However, when I write
help pages I realize the very poor rendering of them in Scilab
help browser (this is due to the very poor css support of actual
(Swing) html viewer). I have some helpfull hints for the
(unconscious) person who would want to spend some time on this
issue, provided that she/he knows Java. </p>
<p>If you think you can contribute to the debate just express
yourself. <br>
</p>
<p>S.<br>
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Le 18/11/2021 à 09:20, CHEZE David 227480 a écrit :<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I‘m wondering if anyone
already looked for developing a “dark mode” for Scilab look
and feel, following dark mode or dark theme selected in the
OS. If not linked automatically to the OS theme, then it
might be custom colour and code colorization configuration
in this perspective that could be shared ?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Thank you for any hint,
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">David
</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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